Hello money adventurer,
I’m still very much in my sabbatical season.
Slower days.
More listening.
Long spacious pauses.
And yes, some big, life-reflection travel.
And in December, I made one very intentional exception.
I stepped out of sabbatical briefly to have a money conversation that felt meaningful, timely, and deeply aligned. One that allowed space for nuance, emotion, and the body. A conversation about money not just as numbers, but as a relationship, a teacher, and a doorway.
I want to share it with you here.
I was interviewed on The Emily Eliza Moyer Show, and we spoke about somatic money work, honest money conversations, and where my work is quietly heading next.
Eliza feels like a younger mirror of me — about twenty years younger — and we discovered so many shared threads before and after the interview that it felt almost uncanny. There was an ease and familiarity that made the conversation especially tender and alive.
Together, we explored:
- How somatic-based money work emerged back in the 90s, before it had a name
- Navigating tender and difficult money conversations within relationship
- Releasing shame around debt, and understanding how it has functioned in our lives
- What a “money koan” is, and how it can support us during sticky, in-between transitions
- How our relationship with money quietly shapes our business decisions
There’s also space in the conversation where I reflect on legacy — on what it means to have been teaching this work for 25 years — and on what feels like it’s beginning to stir next.
If money has ever felt like a place of tenderness, tension, or quiet longing for you, this conversation will meet you right where you are.
You can listen to the episode here.
Even while on sabbatical, I’m grateful to remain in conversation — and to keep opening spaces where we can talk about money with honesty, compassion, and care.
With warmth,
P.S. As we move into a new year, it can be a powerful time to gently tend your money relationship. If you’re feeling called to begin or deepen that work, the self-guided version of The Art of Money is now available. You’re invited to move through the material at your own pace, in your own rhythm. You can learn more about it here.
